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		<title>By: seattlerunnergirl</title>
		<link>http://www.lowfatpie.com/blog/2010/04/28/the-hunger-part-deux/#comment-252</link>
		<dc:creator>seattlerunnergirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2010 17:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and if you add some fat or protein to your mid-morning snack, that will probably really help!  1/2 ounce of nuts, 1 ounce lowfat cheese, 1T peanut/almond butter, etc.  Every little bit helps!  HOw often are you eating?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and if you add some fat or protein to your mid-morning snack, that will probably really help!  1/2 ounce of nuts, 1 ounce lowfat cheese, 1T peanut/almond butter, etc.  Every little bit helps!  HOw often are you eating?</p>
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		<title>By: pinkymcpie</title>
		<link>http://www.lowfatpie.com/blog/2010/04/28/the-hunger-part-deux/#comment-251</link>
		<dc:creator>pinkymcpie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2010 16:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think I&#039;ll check my GI Diet book again for good sugars. I am going back to having a fruit snack in the morning.  You know what the ONLY disadvantage is to filling up on veggies????? Please don&#039;t make me say it! This is another reason why I tried to cut back a bit on veggies as snacks...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I&#8217;ll check my GI Diet book again for good sugars. I am going back to having a fruit snack in the morning.</p>
<p> You know what the ONLY disadvantage is to filling up on veggies????? Please don&#8217;t make me say it! This is another reason why I tried to cut back a bit on veggies as snacks&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: pinkymcpie</title>
		<link>http://www.lowfatpie.com/blog/2010/04/28/the-hunger-part-deux/#comment-250</link>
		<dc:creator>pinkymcpie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2010 16:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Katie! And please continue to hog my blog with your comments! This stuff helps me so much! Like talking it over with good friends and a fresh pot of coffee!!  So yeah, sandwich trials are over. They can keep their bread and cheese!! Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Katie! And please continue to hog my blog with your comments! This stuff helps me so much! Like talking it over with good friends and a fresh pot of coffee!!</p>
<p> So yeah, sandwich trials are over. They can keep their bread and cheese!!<br />
 Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone</p>
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		<title>By: pinkymcpie</title>
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		<dc:creator>pinkymcpie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2010 16:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great advise! Thanks for reminding me about healthy fats. When I put my plan together tomorrow, I will MAKE sure I&#039;m getting them.  Also, I seem to need a few more points a day anyway, and it shouldn&#039;t be an issue to add a few things in and not be over budget at the end of the week. So I&#039;ll try that.  I will also make an appt with the doctor - it&#039;s something I&#039;ve been thinking about for a while.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great advise! Thanks for reminding me about healthy fats. When I put my plan together tomorrow, I will MAKE sure I&#8217;m getting them.</p>
<p> Also, I seem to need a few more points a day anyway, and it shouldn&#8217;t be an issue to add a few things in and not be over budget at the end of the week. So I&#8217;ll try that.</p>
<p> I will also make an appt with the doctor &#8211; it&#8217;s something I&#8217;ve been thinking about for a while.</p>
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		<title>By: pinkymcpie</title>
		<link>http://www.lowfatpie.com/blog/2010/04/28/the-hunger-part-deux/#comment-248</link>
		<dc:creator>pinkymcpie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2010 16:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Issie! Thanks for commenting first of all! I love getting feedback - everything helps, whether it&#039;s sympathy, encouragement, laughter or a kick in the arse!  Our bodies are pretty much an experiment and my sandwich trials are officially over. Back to basics again- planning and preparing are now on the agenda. Soup is in fact a great idea and I have the ability to make a giant pot and freeze servings. So, thanks for reminding me! I can easily add lentils for protein too!  I hope to see you again here!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Issie! Thanks for commenting first of all! I love getting feedback &#8211; everything helps, whether it&#8217;s sympathy, encouragement, laughter or a kick in the arse!</p>
<p> Our bodies are pretty much an experiment and my sandwich trials are officially over. Back to basics again- planning and preparing are now on the agenda. Soup is in fact a great idea and I have the ability to make a giant pot and freeze servings. So, thanks for reminding me! I can easily add lentils for protein too!</p>
<p> I hope to see you again here!!</p>
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		<title>By: Issie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Issie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2010 14:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi from a first time commenter (BTW love your blog).
I sympathise, I&#039;m also doing WW and sometimes wake up in the night with hunger pangs! A bowl of low-point soup often helps during the day but I appreciate that with your hectic schedule it&#039;s time consuming to make (maybe some miso with chopped veg). I get hungry if I haven&#039;t eaten much protein, maybe you&#039;re similar and adding some pulses into your salads might help.

I like FitLiving&#039;s comment about treating your body like a scientific experiment, I feel like I&#039;m learning something new about my diet and body everyday at the moment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi from a first time commenter (BTW love your blog).<br />
I sympathise, I&#8217;m also doing WW and sometimes wake up in the night with hunger pangs! A bowl of low-point soup often helps during the day but I appreciate that with your hectic schedule it&#8217;s time consuming to make (maybe some miso with chopped veg). I get hungry if I haven&#8217;t eaten much protein, maybe you&#8217;re similar and adding some pulses into your salads might help.</p>
<p>I like FitLiving&#8217;s comment about treating your body like a scientific experiment, I feel like I&#8217;m learning something new about my diet and body everyday at the moment.</p>
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		<title>By: shrinkingirl</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2010 23:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man, I wish I had something to offer that hasn&#039;t already been said.  As a calorie counter I learned I could way  more when I ate veggies and I also learned what fruits had the least amount of sugars (= less calories).  I&#039;m also not afraid of good fats at all, in my mind good fat = keeps me fuller longer.
But I agree about consulting a doctor...it&#039;s always better to make sure there isn&#039;t something else going on!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, I wish I had something to offer that hasn&#8217;t already been said.  As a calorie counter I learned I could way  more when I ate veggies and I also learned what fruits had the least amount of sugars (= less calories).  I&#8217;m also not afraid of good fats at all, in my mind good fat = keeps me fuller longer.<br />
But I agree about consulting a doctor&#8230;it&#8217;s always better to make sure there isn&#8217;t something else going on!</p>
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		<title>By: Fit Living Daily</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fit Living Daily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2010 23:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Renee,
Even when you&#039;re writing about something serious, you crack me up.  You&#039;re so funny sometimes.  But anyway, I hear what you&#039;re saying.  I agree with Seattlerunnergirl...maybe you&#039;re actually, seriously hungry!

Biggest Loser just put out a little blurb this week that said if you aren&#039;t eating enough calories, you&#039;re reducing your fat burning capabilities by 20%.  That&#039;s one thing.  But you say, you haven&#039;t lost weight since November, so you could argue that yes, you are eating enough.  However, on BL, when someone isn&#039;t losing, they force them to eat at least 200 calories extra for a week and it helps them to start losing again (Perhaps they put a gun to their head? Maybe &quot;force&quot; is a little strong.).

The other thing is this:  You MAY not have the kind of body that deals with insulin spikes very well and it may be that every time you eat that bread that it screws up your body.  I have no scientific evidence for this except for my own experience.  My family is full of diabetics, I&#039;m the only non-diabetic in the family (knock wood and eat well) and YET, when I&#039;m not losing any weight for say, 3-4 days (I know, you hate me) I pull out my computer and look at my food logs and always, ALWAYS, it&#039;s because I had 2 or 3 servings of bread on a given day, maybe several days in a row.  Plus, on those days, I AM hungry, and not happy about it.  I have no explanation for this but it&#039;s most definately happening.  When I cut out the bread, or only have it half of the days in each week, things move along well.

I despise being hungry.  DESPISE it.  I won&#039;t do it.  I&#039;m like Mizfit, the second I start to feel like I&#039;m actually, truly hungry, I grab fresh veggies or fruit. I do notice that it&#039;s all a balancing act for my body and I have to &quot;fine tune&quot; my diet every day.  Like you, I have to look back at my food log and see why I was so crazy hungry on a given day and then look for foods with lots of fiber and satisfaction to make me feel better the next day.  Yogurt does nothing to satisfy me, oatmeal does.

I&#039;m sorry this comment is hogging up your whole blog!  I just want to say, keep treating yourself as a scientific experiment and see what works for you.  You never will know why those people in the Netherlands can eat those (ugh) sandwiches endlessly and not seem to be hungry, but you are who you are and you have to work with that.  I believe that the answer is out there somewhere, just keep trying things.  Cut out the bread and find something to replace it.  (soup? more veggies?) Hey, do they have fiber drinks available there?  Those add a healthy amount of bulk to your diet without adding many calories.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Renee,<br />
Even when you&#8217;re writing about something serious, you crack me up.  You&#8217;re so funny sometimes.  But anyway, I hear what you&#8217;re saying.  I agree with Seattlerunnergirl&#8230;maybe you&#8217;re actually, seriously hungry!</p>
<p>Biggest Loser just put out a little blurb this week that said if you aren&#8217;t eating enough calories, you&#8217;re reducing your fat burning capabilities by 20%.  That&#8217;s one thing.  But you say, you haven&#8217;t lost weight since November, so you could argue that yes, you are eating enough.  However, on BL, when someone isn&#8217;t losing, they force them to eat at least 200 calories extra for a week and it helps them to start losing again (Perhaps they put a gun to their head? Maybe &#8220;force&#8221; is a little strong.).</p>
<p>The other thing is this:  You MAY not have the kind of body that deals with insulin spikes very well and it may be that every time you eat that bread that it screws up your body.  I have no scientific evidence for this except for my own experience.  My family is full of diabetics, I&#8217;m the only non-diabetic in the family (knock wood and eat well) and YET, when I&#8217;m not losing any weight for say, 3-4 days (I know, you hate me) I pull out my computer and look at my food logs and always, ALWAYS, it&#8217;s because I had 2 or 3 servings of bread on a given day, maybe several days in a row.  Plus, on those days, I AM hungry, and not happy about it.  I have no explanation for this but it&#8217;s most definately happening.  When I cut out the bread, or only have it half of the days in each week, things move along well.</p>
<p>I despise being hungry.  DESPISE it.  I won&#8217;t do it.  I&#8217;m like Mizfit, the second I start to feel like I&#8217;m actually, truly hungry, I grab fresh veggies or fruit. I do notice that it&#8217;s all a balancing act for my body and I have to &#8220;fine tune&#8221; my diet every day.  Like you, I have to look back at my food log and see why I was so crazy hungry on a given day and then look for foods with lots of fiber and satisfaction to make me feel better the next day.  Yogurt does nothing to satisfy me, oatmeal does.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry this comment is hogging up your whole blog!  I just want to say, keep treating yourself as a scientific experiment and see what works for you.  You never will know why those people in the Netherlands can eat those (ugh) sandwiches endlessly and not seem to be hungry, but you are who you are and you have to work with that.  I believe that the answer is out there somewhere, just keep trying things.  Cut out the bread and find something to replace it.  (soup? more veggies?) Hey, do they have fiber drinks available there?  Those add a healthy amount of bulk to your diet without adding many calories.</p>
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		<title>By: seattlerunnergirl</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2010 23:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, okay, so I&#039;ll throw out a few more thoughts:

1. Are you eating plenty of healthy fats?  I&#039;ve heard they are good both for satiety AND for helping you lose weight.

2. Maybe you&#039;re not eating enough.  I know that sounds crazy when it comes to weight loss, but maybe try adding 5 QUALITY points per day and see if that helps - both with the hunger and with the weight loss.

3. Go see a doctor, either MD or ND (or both) and make sure there is nothing going on physically that might account for you not losing.

Beyond that, I got nothing.  And I can hear how frustrated you are and I would be, too, in your shoes.  So whatever the solution(s) turns out to be, I hope you find it soon.  Meanwhile, hang in there!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, okay, so I&#8217;ll throw out a few more thoughts:</p>
<p>1. Are you eating plenty of healthy fats?  I&#8217;ve heard they are good both for satiety AND for helping you lose weight.</p>
<p>2. Maybe you&#8217;re not eating enough.  I know that sounds crazy when it comes to weight loss, but maybe try adding 5 QUALITY points per day and see if that helps &#8211; both with the hunger and with the weight loss.</p>
<p>3. Go see a doctor, either MD or ND (or both) and make sure there is nothing going on physically that might account for you not losing.</p>
<p>Beyond that, I got nothing.  And I can hear how frustrated you are and I would be, too, in your shoes.  So whatever the solution(s) turns out to be, I hope you find it soon.  Meanwhile, hang in there!</p>
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		<title>By: pinkymcpie</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2010 17:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I look at the first link above I get the following questions to answer:
1. Am I thirsty and not really hungry?
I always drink plenty of water or tea to make sure I&#039;m hydrated.  Normally NOT thirst

2. Did I skip a meal?
I am skipping snacks, because I thought my fruit snacks were too much sugars;  I would like to eat a snack, but then I don&#039;t know what as fruit costs me 0 points and other things cost me a range of points

3. Did the meal have a lot of rapidly absorbed carbs,
I do not generally eat anything but complex carbs

4. Was the meal too small?
Possibly, but again, I will run into my daily budget going over if I don&#039;t know what to eat.
.
5. It’s normal to be hungry
(Hunger in the morning or late in the afternoon is normal. It’s not normal to feel hunger 30 minutes after eating.)
OK, it&#039;s normal.  But to what degree?  And sometimes?  I feel hungry a half an hour after eating.

6. Is the feeling not really hunger at all?
I&#039;m pretty good at identifying emotional eating.  The feeling I have is real hunger
.
7.  Is the feeling a craving rather than hunger?
I rarely crave anything at all.  I never just think &quot;ooh I could murder a pint of ice cream&quot;  or &quot;I need mac and cheese right now!&quot;



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I look at the first link above I get the following questions to answer:<br />
1. Am I thirsty and not really hungry?<br />
I always drink plenty of water or tea to make sure I&#8217;m hydrated.  Normally NOT thirst</p>
<p>2. Did I skip a meal?<br />
I am skipping snacks, because I thought my fruit snacks were too much sugars;  I would like to eat a snack, but then I don&#8217;t know what as fruit costs me 0 points and other things cost me a range of points</p>
<p>3. Did the meal have a lot of rapidly absorbed carbs,<br />
I do not generally eat anything but complex carbs</p>
<p>4. Was the meal too small?<br />
Possibly, but again, I will run into my daily budget going over if I don&#8217;t know what to eat.<br />
.<br />
5. It’s normal to be hungry<br />
(Hunger in the morning or late in the afternoon is normal. It’s not normal to feel hunger 30 minutes after eating.)<br />
OK, it&#8217;s normal.  But to what degree?  And sometimes?  I feel hungry a half an hour after eating.</p>
<p>6. Is the feeling not really hunger at all?<br />
I&#8217;m pretty good at identifying emotional eating.  The feeling I have is real hunger<br />
.<br />
7.  Is the feeling a craving rather than hunger?<br />
I rarely crave anything at all.  I never just think &#8220;ooh I could murder a pint of ice cream&#8221;  or &#8220;I need mac and cheese right now!&#8221;</p>
<p>So&#8230; anyone???</p>
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